Vinnie vs. John

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Originally posted by CLWarunki:

So basically what you are saying is that JR is a HUMAN DRUM MACHINE really. Machine-like percision with the click and super consistency... maybe a bit of feel when needed, since he is human after all - right?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That reminded me of a JR clinic. He was talking about studio work and said something like: "People don't hire me to nail stuff precicely with the click track..."

(Audience: "wtf?")

JR: "...I can't even do it."

(Audience: "WTF?! If this guy can't do it, who can?")

JR: "My job is to go there and make the tracks breathe and feel alive. That's what's I'm hired to do."

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ May 02, 2005 06:03 AM: Message edited by: SingleStrk ]</font>

[img]redface.gif[/img] Computers are enemies.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ May 02, 2005 06:04 AM: Message edited by: SingleStrk ]</font>

...horses for courses?

If JR is 'connecting the dots' then I'd give anything to be able to connect dots like JR.

They are both incredible IMO.

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Originally posted by in_the_pocket:
Yeah Yeah Yeah the technical aspect is obiously that vinnie take john jr robinson and throw him in the sky, but let be honest, in terms of groove how is more capable of bringing the song at the highest level?

__ Vinnie Colaiuta

__ John Jr Robinson

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ringo buries both of them.

I agree Derek.........You can't compare JR to Vinnie.
JR plays to the click and forms a pocket and keeps it there, he does not even try to throw 'licks' into the music, he plays it safe and there is nothing wrong with that.
Take a real listen sometime to 1 of the many tracks he has provided a backbeat too.
Off The Wall by Michael Jackson, Back In Th High Life by Steve Winwood are just 2 records that come to mind. We Are The World.....
I think for my tastes the best record JR did and sounded killer was Peter Framptons self titled come back record from 94, black and white portrait of Frampton holding a guitar, both JR and Denny Fongheiser own it on that disc.

http://music.barnesandnoble.com/sear...8520424&ITM=10

Who would you hire for a studio session? JR or Steve Ferrone? They are very similar to me.

I almost said JR because he is invisible (Change the World, for example) but then i remembered 'Fields of Gold'...

Hmmm... i gotta say JR has something special to be able to make you groove your ass off and not even notice the drums... damn, good question.

"..drumming is not a competition - this is not a sport... this is an art."

I'm thinking we need to put this in huge letters at the top of the forum. [img]wink.gif[/img]